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« on: January 08, 2005, 09:07:58 PM »

I use the DW6000. I was trying to download the Linux operating system. It's over 500 MB which i know will put me over my FAP limit. The problem is when i am downloading something, whenever i get to around 60 MB, my speed will drop from 120kB/s to 2kB/s. I have contacted DirecWay and all they do is set and tell me about the FAP. I am sure that being subject to the FAP isn't going to cause them to drop my speed that low. This happens any time i try to download a big file. I don't know if it is a problem with my computer or the modem or what. I don't think it's my computer. It's a Dell 8400 that I just got a few weeks ago. This happened on my other computer too.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2005, 02:25:30 AM »

Hi whiteolorin,

If you have a FAP threshold of (what is it? 167MB for most users?), the FAP will actually start to 'kick in' sometimes LONG before you reach your limit.  The closer you get to your limit (on some machines), the slower you'll go.  Also, there is no way to get DWay to work with you because they'll "feed you a line of BS" and say they have no control of "The FAP Machine" due to "it" using seriously complicated integers, sequesters, armadillos and rattatatans.

One work-a-round would be to have somebody here that DOES NOT have a FAP limit to d/l it for ya, burn it to a CD then forward it to you, or perhaps you can get the site that offers the download to "sell" you a CD for a small price plus mail it to you?  ...or anything "born of necessity" will work!  lol...

My FAP limit is 800, and I would be delighted to d/l the file you are seeking, burn it to a CD and then snail-mail it to you, but I live in Costa Rica which means it would take at least 3 weeks before you received the CD ...and most likely it would not be in one piece.  (The mail system here is anything but fast.  I mailed letters in early December that are still sitting on the pile at my local "post office."  It's wild)!  We have AIrborne Express here, but that's only available on the other side of the country from where I'm located ...which is less than 150 miles but if you could see the roads you would understand why I state that it takes nearly 18 hours to get there!  (Even with a "lifted" Jeep MADE FOR MUDDING)!  Oh yeah!!!  (love it)!

Say ...aren't there websites that have BIG files chopped up into smaller ones for FAP Sufferers such as ourselves (so that they can be downloaded a few 'meg' to a time)?  I 'googled' but didn't find anything like what I have in mind in that venue.

Umm, it is NOT anything to do with your DW6000 modem.  They will either work or not work.  (DirecWay has already "trained me well" for my DW6000 ....I've heard every "story" they have to offer you ...all of them being lies but of course)!  DW6000 modems either work or do not work ...there is no "in between."  AND ...if it WAS a modem problem, they could access it from NOC and fix it in less than a minute.  So don't let them BS you. 

It isn't anything to do with your computer either.  It's DirecWay playing their silly-assed games as usual.  However, nothing lasts forever thus someday a company will arise and blow them out of the water forever ...and I'll cherish the day it happens!  Smile

Cheers!

*Sorry I couldn't have supplied the "magic answer" ....I am truly unsure if one exists!

*Last minute modification:  Sometimes you download speed will fall off the face of the earth.  Sometimes it means that the file you are trying to download is "fried."  Maybe this is what you are experiencing (meaning as an isolated incident)?  I dunno, just a thought because it happens to me now and then...

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2005, 06:52:12 AM »

I had thought of asking someone to mail it to me on a CD but I didn't think anyone would actually be willing to do it. Since you are in Costa Rica i won't ask you to do that. I think my sister has DSL. I'll just ask her. Right now i've just been using a download manager so that I could download parts at a time. I hope something other than DirecWay becomes available to me. Even though you did not have the "magic answer", I thank you for your response.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2005, 07:05:53 AM »

I think you'll find there are more than enough "willing members" here to download that file, split it up into several pieces using a file-splitting program, and then make it available to you in 100meg sizes, or 25meg, or whatever it takes to work smoothly for you.  All you have to do is give this post enough time to be read and you'll be amazed at the responses you'll receive. 

We are all here together, not anyone being any better than the next.  Yet the folks at this forum are "top drawer" ...hands down on that much!  Might as well share, might as well smile ...life goes on for a little-bitty while!  heheh...

Cheers!

Most likely someone here is within 500 miles of you I should think, if nothing else I am sure they'd be willing to send you a CD of the Linux proggy you are in need of.  We've all been there in the same boat as you at one point or another.  (Heck, I'm still in the danged boat too with a stupid 800mb FAP limit)!  lol...

Umm...if all else fails you could use a program like ReGet to download the file in bits and pieces until you have the whole thing!  (I'm unsure where to get it as I write, but I am sure that you can find it and others like it on Google)!
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2005, 07:14:06 AM »

Just gimme the link and and I'll get it for you. Then you've got a choice between downloading from me (125 kB/s max) or  YouSendIt.

That FAP thingy is called AUP at Chello. Even tho they don't officially tell what the cap is, it was at 50 GB/month before the upgrade. 50 GB per month isn't that much tho... I could use that much bandwidth in 23 hours. Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2005, 09:39:50 AM »

if the download slows down only some time after its begun... try using a dl manager like getright, then when the speed drops, pause the dl, wait a while and resume, hopefully at full impulse power?
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2005, 02:41:42 PM »

I'm using the GetRight download manager. I think i'll just try downloading a little bit at a time. I'll eventually get it. I emailed DirecWay again and told them in the email that I didn't want them to mention the FAP at all. When i got a response, the FAP was all they talked about. What would normally take me a little over an hour is taking days because of DirecWay's stupid fair access policy.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2005, 03:48:36 PM »

Super whiteolorin!

Again, I'm sorry that I couldn't pull in that file for you, but at least the "magic answer" found it's way to you, and that's what this forum is all about.  I am sorry to read that you had another unpleasant experience with DirecWay, yet ever since I have been involved with that company it has been an unpleasant experience with NO GOOD EXPERIENCES to offset the bad ones!  As you have pointed out, you politely ask them to NOT do something, so they come right back at you with precisely what you requested you did not want.  THAT IS DirecWay!!!  lol....  Pathetic at best, not to mention inexcusable.  It's as inexcusable as their Fair Access Policy.  Pray tell ...just what the hell is FAIR about it?  We are paying major bucks yet are getting less bandwidth and speed than people who are paying 1/2 the prices we are ...and they don't have a FAP.  Wow!  What a rip!  lol....

DirecWay:   WHERE QUALITY IS JUST A SLOGAN

Cheers!

*Hats off to RTB (The Troll Guy) for his kind offer to download the file for you when I fell through the floor.  Give that man a medal!  (No medals here, so I gave him a click on the ole Applause Button)!  Yeah....
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2005, 12:05:18 AM »

*Hats off to RTB (The Troll Guy) for his kind offer to download the file for you when I fell through the floor.  Give that man a medal!  (No medals here, so I gave him a click on the ole Applause Button)!  Yeah....

Pity I couldn't actually provide him the file. Chello did lower the maximum use to 40 GB, and my dad got a warning email. He then forced me to say I won't download anything anymore for the sake of my sister's wrath. He's a moron with computers. Rolling Eyes

We used 30 GB so far, and the irony is that this 'agreement ' has one flaw: I can still upload enough to cap us out. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2005, 12:22:04 AM »

Hmm ..oh well, at least you can say you gave it your best shot right?  (If nothing else you got ONE CLICK on your Applause 'button')!  lol....  Hey, that's hilarious that you are hogtied from downloading anything yet nothing was mentioned about uploading.  lol...  However, isn't it wild how the greater majority of users just have NO CLUE about such things yet they always seem to be the ones in charge of the danged things?  Like, how the hey are you going to be able to use ANYTHING to it's utmost unless you learn everything about it that you possibly can?

At least he's getting the file, although it is the long road to have to take in order to get it.  (I have a passionate hatred for DirecWay's FAP BS).  It has prevented my helping even myself!  So, at the best it's stupid.

Say, thanks for the reply!  I thought I was all alone in here tonight!

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2005, 06:40:35 AM »

Hmm ..oh well, at least you can say you gave it your best shot right?  (If nothing else you got ONE CLICK on your Applause 'button')!  lol....  Hey, that's hilarious that you are hogtied from downloading anything yet nothing was mentioned about uploading.  lol...  However, isn't it wild how the greater majority of users just have NO CLUE about such things yet they always seem to be the ones in charge of the danged things?  Like, how the hey are you going to be able to use ANYTHING to it's utmost unless you learn everything about it that you possibly can?
I'm amazed that some people are able to use a computer without crashing it every few minutes.  Another example would be that my sister almost demanded a P4 3 GHz, etc, etc etc for browsing and other really minor stuff. but when I tried to explain to her that such tasks need no more than a P2 she went beserk.

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At least he's getting the file, although it is the long road to have to take in order to get it.  (I have a passionate hatred for DirecWay's FAP BS).  It has prevented my helping even myself!  So, at the best it's stupid.
New calcs: It takes 18 hours to use up the full 40 GB with this connection. Something really does not add up here, and even worse, my dad first thought we had a cap of 1.5 GB, which is reached in 42 minutes with the pipe fully used.

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I believe it was my last post on any forum yesterday, after that I was watching Naruto epps. Downloading 50 epps of that anime was 16 GB bandwidth used already.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2005, 01:45:58 PM »

In your calculations, did you remember to add in the amount of "refill" you get each hour for 'non-usage' (except when you haven't used anything ...then DWay gives you nothing ...of course)!  lol....  I think they should be giving me 800MB for every four hours that I DON'T use the web ...then I would never have to keep an eye on my usage.

Why would your sister think that a P4 running at 3.0GHz would increase her surfing speed?  It would only increase her system speed limited by the motherboard and amount of memory (just to name the largest speed factors at play).  Besides, since when does one need a dual-threaded CPU to surf?  lol...

We have an OLD 166MHz machine that we 'test' things on now and then, and it will surf just as fast as our very best machine with the "latest and greatest."  It has a whopping 128megs of RAM ....you know the deal (in its day it was a killer computer)!  Now she's an antique!  I still have my Commodore 64 too ...still runs perfectly and all the software that was ever purchased for it still works equally as well.  My old Tandy ...well, it was a DX-66 (they ran HOT) ...and it 'smoked' about three years ago.  The CPU is soldered to the MB so that ended the ole love affair ...so we cannibalised it for what parts we could. 

The 14.4k modem is still working though ...some days it runs faster than this 'hot-shot' DWay connection of mine ...which at the moment is screaming along at a whopping 150Kbps 'down'!  (I could just kill them for doing this to me.  Pay for their finest, yet get the absolute worst I've ever had)!  Think I can get them to listen?  (Assuming I get anyone that speaks English....).  lol...

Cheers Troll!
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2005, 02:13:14 PM »

It does not work that way here. The maximum is simply 40 GB per month, go over it, and you get capped at 64/64, even though Chello also claims it would be set to dial-up. I would test it, if it wasn't for the others that wouldn't like me to fill it up.

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Why would your sister think that a P4 running at 3.0GHz would increase her surfing speed?  It would only increase her system speed limited by the motherboard and amount of memory (just to name the largest speed factors at play).  Besides, since when does one need a dual-threaded CPU to surf?  lol...

She has no idea of internet speed, or what is needed to be able to do what she needs for school projects. She currently uses my ex-computer, which is a P3 1 GHz, 512 MB ram (it was 384 originally), Geforce 5700 (or something cheap like that), and decent Gigabyte motherboard. I doubt she is happy with it.

Sigh.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2005, 02:43:35 PM »

Smile  Women.  Can't live with them and can't live without them.  lol....

I remember the time when I would have killed to get my hands on a computer like she's presently using!  Ha!  You could speed her up using some of the older "helper" programs though ....like "mem-maker" ....remember that one?  I've still got a copy of the 4.1 version if you'd like it.  It takes your memory and maximises the efficiency of it ...and it certainly will make any older computer much more "stable" and a bit faster ...simply by reorganising the way the system uses the memory.  (It's designed to work with RAM ...NOT DDR)! 

On these newer machines, it's built right into the BIOS and is taking place constantly!

LATE ENTRY:  Actually, you can't use memmaker inside of a Windows environment .....oh well. But the RAM "beefer uppers" of that period would certainly boost her system!
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2005, 03:20:53 PM »

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when i saw you say memmaker i immediately thought of the ram-doubler software that compresses the ram like speeddisk does. mwahahaha. forget the name though, also back in the day when ram was more precious than gold...
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