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I am getting my dish re-pointed this Thursday the 13th. I am currently on Satmex5 and transponder 1050. Does anyone think either transponder on Satmex5 is better than any other one. Maybe I could even get on a new sat. all together. If that is possible which one may be less congested? I have the DW6000 on the consumer plan. The Reverend, you mentioned a transponder 1300MHz, in you post with yooperlady. Do you feel I would be better off with that one here in Maryland.
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Hi there rlh24 (and please accept my apologies for not getting to you sooner than I did)!
There are several satellites "up there" with different transponders in each of them. Each Satellite has a specific "footprint" so that certain satellites and their transponders are more effective in certain areas than others. There is no set rule-of-thumb as to which "bird" (satellite) will be the absolute best choice for any one area ...especially when you consider that all of their "footprints" are interlaced within each other (especially over the North American Continent)!
In a nutshell, when you "fire up" the DW6000 for the first time it will methodically search out each transponder on the "bird" you are aimed at, yet your DW6000 comes PreProgrammed to operate with a specific satellite on a specific frequency. (If you gave it to somebody five states away it would be worthless because of this programming).
Only the boys at NOC can reassign a new transponder frequency to you, and only they have the machine that can download the new data to your 6000 in order to retrain it to use a different frequency. 99.9% of the time you are using the "primo" configuration for your geographical location. Occasionally, the system will goof and assign the wrong satellite or transponder to a customer that has persistant problems. It is only at those times that it is possible to request that DirecWay "move" you to a new frequency. You are currently using the very best one that Sat-Mex5 has available, because it has a wonderful footprint that is effective no matter where you are in North America (or even as far south as The Caribbean ...you just need a 1.2m dish to "see" it)!
Since you say you are in Maryland, I am confident that you are getting the best transponder for your area available, because your NOC is located in Germantown, Maryland ...and they are the ones who are keeping Sat-Mex5 "turning and burning."
Kapish?
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*You could certainly ASK to be placed on a new satellite. You only need to be able to "see" it in order to use it, but you have to have a pretty strong arguement before they will allow you to switch ...and bear in mind that it would involve them having to download an entirely new set of instructions to your DW600's ....and then pray the sucker will boot after they do it. In many cases, I have seen the poor owner get stuck with having to buy a different DW6000 (that was decommissioned properly), just to get commissioned with NOC again. While we are on that topic ...NEVER buy a satellite system or modem from anyone until you are sure (call DirecWay) that it has been properly decommissioned - - or you'll find yourself with a DW4000 or 6000 that they will refuse to recommission until the original owner decommissons it. (Sticky, sticky ...sticky)!
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January 11, 2005, 06:10:50 PM »
Thanks for the reply. No problem with the time frame. I see you are very busy these days. The authorization have already been given to repoint my dish and get a new transponder. I talked to someone in Administrative Office this afternoon, I have not got the go ahead for a new satellite, that is why I asked if it were even possible. What about my question for a transponder? Are any of them less congested? You mentioned 1300. I had never heard of that one. Is it for business only? I certainly do not want to put out any more money with this system that I am not completly happy with at this time due to the difference in downloads througout the day.
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January 11, 2005, 06:23:23 PM »
Well, the exact frequency isn't an "even" 1300 ....it is something like 1305 or so. The ones who are on it are quite happy with it, and there is another one (1260?) that has next to nothing for net-congestion at this time. But, give it 3 months and they'll all be maxed out. That's how DWay works! (it's a very irritating way for them to be conducting business ....they are chasing the money trail and to hell with the customers)! I'll see if I can't dig up that info as soon as I am able to log into DWay. Right now it isn't responding for me ....as usual....
I'm using 1202MHz, yet I am pretty sure that it is reserved for Commercial use only (G4R). It gets congested, yet the speeds stay UP because it is a 'pricey' account with a bit of extra bandwidth to fall back on ...but over the past two days I've had periods of speeds less than 50 ...and I'm not impressed seeing that it cost me $1300US up front plus $134.00US per month! grrr...
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January 11, 2005, 06:29:49 PM »
Here are the Transponders and the Birds that carry them! Looks like I was thinking about the 1350MHz ...but I don't think you can "hit" that bird from Maryland anyway.... here ya go:
Galaxy 11 (91°) - 990, 1350, 1370, 1410
Galaxy3C (95°) - 1307, 1360, 1120, 1420
Galaxy4R (99°) - 970, 1110, 1201, 1202, 1210 (AOL+), 1230, 1250, 1350, 1370
Satmex5 (117°) - 970, 990, 1050, 1070, 1090, 1130, 1170, 1230, 1250, 1270
AMC3 (87°) - 1150, 1250, 1290,
Horizons 1 (127°) - 1390
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January 12, 2005, 02:51:22 PM »
Thanks for all your help The Reverend. You have posted lots of useful information. I just got off the phone with Executive Customer Support Tech, I am suppossed to get repointed to Horizons 1 tomorrow. He told me it is just a few degrees west of satmex5, located at 127 long. If that is correct I will have no problem with the line of site. I sure hope this is a smooth transition.
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January 12, 2005, 03:11:43 PM »
You are most welcome rlh24, and it was my pleasure to be of assistance!
The info you were given by Tech Support is precisely correct. It is located slightly to the right and a bit higher than your present elevation, so that means a bit less atmosphere to have to "punch" through too!
As you look at the Clark-Allen belt from ground level, satellites start in the east at a low elevation and climb in a stair-like fashion as you make your way further west. This makes it very easy to find a satellite considering that they are REALLY spaced closely together!
You will have no problems at all with "pointing up" to the new bird, but you may hit a snag or two that Tech Support will be able to correct with little to no problems. (While the technician is there, get on his good side, work with him, and see if he will help you attain the highest possible Signal Strength!! :idea:Watch how he does it (as I have described in my "pointing up article" ...and you'll see just how easy it really is to "touch up" your dish every month or so for max performance! ;)
"The Rev"
I graciously thank you for your kind words. They are very much appreciated!
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January 12, 2005, 03:32:00 PM »
I have read your pointing up article and will pay attention when the installer is here tomorrow. I wil be sure to be "best buddies" with the installer. Thanks again. You are just full in information. I will let you and this forum know how all this turns out.
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January 13, 2005, 11:49:46 AM »
Well my satellite change was a sucess! I am now on Horizons 1, 1270. It was almost a seemless transition. It did take some time to get the modem re-commissioned. The installer who originally installed my system was the one who came out to do this sat change, My speed looks great for this time of day. I was not getting this kind of speed on satmed5. Many thanks to all members who helped me with this decision. Signal peaked at 67. Cross pol number were high also.
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January 13, 2005, 01:31:24 PM »
Hey there rlh24!
TY for the info, and I am well-pleased you had a headache free transition. Hats off to your installer for that one! You are on the least used Transponder available, so you shouldn't see too much variation in your speeds throughout any day. I'm still amazed that you have been moved to H1 considering your location. (Horizon 1 was originally placed to service Hawaii, Alaska, and part of the west coast. But, after they commissioned the 'bird', they discovered it had an 'awesome' footprint ...so perhaps alot more people will find themselves being moved to H1 over the next few months)? Time will tell.
Thanks again and Cheers!
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January 14, 2005, 01:00:37 PM »
I am very pleased with this change right now. We had heavy rain this morning and I was still able to surf and I only had a signal of 44. There is no way I would have benn able to go online with satmex5. The slightest rain would normally cut out my system. While the installer was here he tried a cross pole test and my system failed 100%. I must have had something out of line. I have been following your thread with yooperlady. I think I will try TCP Optimizer instead of cablenut. Do you have a secret(hehe) setting for me?
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January 14, 2005, 01:27:01 PM »
Hey there rlh24!!!
I sure do have a "secret" setting! When you run the programme, set it up like this (the only thing that you should be changing is to be turning the Time Stamping to YES (on) ...which helps make up for the latency which is horrible with satellites!
Cablenut just does not work correctly with DirecWay in any manner. I've messed with it in everyway and decided it is solely for "ground broadband" ...and nothing more.
Here are the settings I use:
Tcp Receive Window 0
Window Scaling No
Time Stamping Yes
Selective Acks Yes
Dial Up (RAS) MTU (blank)
Path MTU Discovery YES
Black Hole Detection NO!!!
Max Duplicate ACKs 2 (and only two)!
TTL 64
If you are using a Router, you'll want to apply these changes (in Adapter Settings) to: Realtek TRL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC (or whatever your NIC is)
If you are NOT using a router, then you just bring up whatever it has detected in that box, then set your MTU to 1500 (all of DirecWay works on 1500, make it 1480 if you are not using a DW6000, otherwise keep it at 1500, click on Save, then exit.
You may wish to write down what's in each box JUST IN CASE it trashes your connection ...that way you can go back in and reset, save and escape the error very easily ...BUT >>>>LEAVE THE TIME STAMPING SET TO "YES"
That is the #1 "secret" of why Dr. TCP kicks up most all satellite speeds because it allows extra time for the latency (and other mathematical things too complicated to get into)! LOL
Cheers! Hey...lemme know how it works out please? TY!
The Reverend.
*PS: I am well-pleased that it's working out so very well for you! That's an amazingly low SS to have and still be connected, so there ain't NUTTIN' wrong with yur dish! lol (I love it)!
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Are these setting correct?
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January 14, 2005, 06:40:36 PM »
If that was just taken in the last 30 minutes, no ...I don't think you can assuming you have applied all the other tweaks that I have been laying on everyone. In fact, I can't get over 400Kbps at the moment, so you are looking good to me! LOL!
You may want to try the LARGEST test though.... that will give you the most accurate speed result. You may be "bursting" with the little file you see?
Cheers!
The Reverend
*Horizons 1 will be gaining speed steadily ....starting sometime this weekend as they get the kinks worked out of their last screwup. Satellites are very fussy, and apparently they hate DirecWay.
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