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« on: August 27, 2006, 10:54:34 AM »

I have a home network consisting of several computers....I have a problem with my sister, who password protects her computer so that I can't see what she is doing on her computer.  I need to block her access to the network (and ultimately, the internet).  It is not a wireless connection, it is wired...and there are no options in the router to block access.  Any ideas?  I figured I could just make the usable IP addresses for our network in a different range than they are now, so as to block her access.  Any other ideas?  Thanks !!!
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2006, 11:05:17 AM »

what kind of router do you have? and if there really is no options you could just give her a static IP that will not work on your network so she cant get on the internet.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2006, 11:06:04 AM »

I have a home network consisting of several computers....I have a problem with my sister, who password protects her computer so that I can't see what she is doing on her computer.  I need to block her access to the network (and ultimately, the internet).  It is not a wireless connection, it is wired...and there are no options in the router to block access.  Any ideas?  I figured I could just make the usable IP addresses for our network in a different range than they are now, so as to block her access.  Any other ideas?  Thanks !!!
There probably aren't options in the router to block access, but there should be options in the router to only allow access from certain mac addresses.

See if you can find these in your router manual, if you aren't sure where to look, tell us the brand and model number of your router, and we will look it up for you.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2006, 11:23:35 AM »

my router is a Westell VersaLink model 327W....for Verizon DSL.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2006, 11:27:04 AM »

my router is a Westell VersaLink model 327W....for Verizon DSL.

you can't do nothing in there for blocking. your going to have to eather just unplug her computer or change it to a IP that will not work on your network like 192.168.55.1
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2006, 11:31:34 AM »

Yea I just changed the IP address setup of my network....I was using static IPs, which hers is set up for....and I changed the rest of the computers to use dynamic IPs...so that should take care of that....thanks for the quick help!

                   -Rob
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2006, 11:43:17 AM »

my router is a Westell VersaLink model 327W....for Horizon DSL.

Well my friend, I'm afraid I have some bad news. I could be wrong and I hope I am - but here is what I found out.
The router you bought does have mac address filtering, but only for wireless connections, not for hard wired connections. With that information I can tell you that the only way around her ability to get on-line is to physically pull the wire. Sad

(I keep my router in my bedroom so I can do that with my kids.)


There are some things you can do to keep the kid off the net on the kid's computer, but kids have a tendency to either know how to get around that or friends who can figure it out for them. Software is never a 100 % fix.

The good news is a new router is only 20 - 40 bucks at wal mart, and despite what everyone who is L33T likes to think, name brands don't matter at all.

Would you like some recommendations?
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2006, 11:44:34 AM »

well there you go, dlewis won the race. Good job buddy!

Just remember she can change her IP with the click of a mouse and be back online.
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2006, 12:08:11 PM »

Just remember she can change her IP with the click of a mouse and be back online.

only if she knows how..
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2006, 12:10:13 PM »

she'll find a way, kids are insidiously intellingent and resourceful.

Just a head's up, don't consider it a premanent fix is all I'm saying. Smile
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2006, 12:21:55 PM »

looks like you could write a firewall policy to drop any packets incoming or outgoing..


Disabling lan access is a lot harder to do..  WIth out running some type of authentication server..   If if you assign her a static IP out of the DHCP range is it still going to work..   You are going to have to fudge the address or the subnet mask..
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2006, 12:56:30 PM »

Swimmer: I agree this could work, but there is absolutely no documentation on how to write it. We can guess at it, but it would be a long process and would probably at some point cut him off from the internet (and from myself which would be a travesty even though I don't know this guy, but he's a guy Razz )

I'm sticking with the bottom line: keep the router in his room, and unplug at will. OR if someone on this forum has access to documentation on the syantax for firewall rules for a Westell router, what we would want to do is create a rule to drop all incoming traffic with a destination IP that matches her computer. Then again, if ya'll wanna risk it, lemme know - I'll get Jimmy working on writing something! "D
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2006, 04:38:54 PM »

It is possible.. there are 4 levels of security on these routers.. 1-3 are pre-programmed and the user selects a level and the correct script is executed..

Level 4 is a custom configuration where you can write your own firewall rules.. http://www.westell.com/content/sales/327W.pdf  right around pg57..  So... you would have to write a rule that would disallow outbound and inbound access on * for your ip.. which still means that the ip address is going to need to be static..  I will try and find a guide tonight and write the rule if I can..
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2006, 06:01:05 PM »

You rock Swimmer!
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2006, 08:16:31 PM »

That is a good call.. I have the firewall rule written.. I am about 95% sure that it will work.. however, I am with cholla... More information on the situtation would be helpful before I post what I came up with..  You can either post it here or send a pm to one of the mods..

There are other ways of "figuring" out what she is doing without cutting her internet access..  While we may not go into all of that, as it is kind of a Gray area, cutting someones internet might not be the best thing to do.
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