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« on: September 04, 2006, 01:23:47 PM »

A friend of mine has kids at home. While she does do her best to keep an eye on the kids and such she is wanting to monitor there activity while on the computer. Myself I can only think of a "key stroke logger". How you could get that past a virus scanner is beyond me. I am just not sure what else to use? Any ideas would be so appreciated.


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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2006, 01:29:22 PM »

Quote from: intense on September 04, 2006, 01:23:47 PM

You can use a program like VNC (www.realvnc.com) to monitor activities on the computer by watching the screen remotely.


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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2006, 01:31:14 PM »

You can also try this site, they offer tips about how to educate your kids about bad stuff online.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/default.mspx

It would help if you would tell us what your friend was looking to in particular.

another alternative is a router that will email you when kid goes to a site that has bad words. Something that has parental control features in it's discription. I.E.: You want to look for 'parental control features' on the box for the router.

Linksys WRT54GS wireless router and the ZyXEL HomeSafe Parental Control Gateway model HS-100W both do it


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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2006, 01:38:56 PM »

There is many programs out there to monitior computer/internet usage. Remember, there is something as simple as checking the browser history to see where they were browsing, if they didn't clear it.


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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2006, 02:23:25 PM »

intense, this is a great way to get your friend involved with her children. It may seem cheesy, but I think it will work for her if she choses to take this route:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/famwebrules.mspx

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Using family contracts to help protect your kids online
Before your children start exploring the new frontiers of the Internet, it's a good idea to make sure everyone understands what they should and shouldn't be doing online. One idea is to sit down together and draw up a family code of conduct for all to agree on. You can create a different contract for each child in your family with Internet usage rules set appropriately by age. Everyone signs his or her contract to show that they understand the rules you've set, and they agree to follow them when they go online.

The following is a suggested family code-of-conduct contract for you to use for each of your kids. Feel free to copy this contract, revise the rules as necessary for your family's needs, and print this contract for your personal use. Once the terms of your family Internet usage contract are agreed upon and signed, consider posting these contracts next to each computer in your house to remind everyone of the family Internet rules.

Online Code-of-Conduct Contract
I will:

• Talk with my parents to learn the rules for using the Internet, including where I can go, what I can do, when I can go online, and how long I can be online ( ___ minutes or ___ hours).

• Never give out personal information such as my home address, telephone number, my parents' work address or telephone number, credit card numbers, or the name and location of my school without my parents' permission.

• Always tell my parents immediately if I see or receive anything on the Internet that makes me feel uncomfortable or threatened, including e-mail messages, Web sites, or even anything in the regular mail from Internet friends.

• Never agree to meet anyone in person that I have met online, without my parent's permission.

• Never send pictures of myself or other family members to other people through the Internet or regular mail without first checking with my parents.

• Never give out my Internet passwords to anyone (even my best friends) other than my parents.

• Be good while online and not do anything that could hurt or anger other people or that is against the law.

• Never download, install, or copy anything from disks or the Internet without proper permission.

• Never do anything on the Internet that costs money without first asking permission from my parents.

• Let my parents know my Internet logon and chat names, listed below:

_____________________

_____________________

_____________________

_____________________

Name (child) _______________________ Date ____________

Parent or guardian _______________________ Date ____________

I am going to use it myself, it's a great tool to teach your children that you trust them, and you can follow up with other measures (my kids know I will check their computers whenever I want and I have that right to, because I pay for it). Teaching them to be better behaved will last their whole life, watching them is only as good as where you can watch from. PM me if you have specific questions on how to teach your kids with respect, I help out on another large site that does this.


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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 02:44:42 PM »

Hi Water , good info , I am in the same situation with my Grandchildren , well only the 11y. old , he is a sensible lad , and as I supply the computer , I figure I have the right morally to check where he has been , mind you his den has a SPIDER in it, so he is not using the computer at the moment Laughing


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 02:47:36 PM »

Quote from: Roco on September 04, 2006, 02:44:42 PM

Roco, you would be amazed at how much that kid looks up to you and wants to earn your respect, it merely takes dialogue between you both. I learned a lot through my divorce, and I learned the most when my kid said : Mom, talk to me and tell me what you're thinking.

They care, and they are young enough and pure enough to take it in.

Talking matters WAY more than a logger!


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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 04:48:38 PM »

I saw a key stroke logger mentioned on a movie last night called "Not My Life".That's the movie name not the logger name. :haha:


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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 04:54:21 PM »

Wow at first I thought my dads tree logging experience was going to come into play. Embarassed


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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 04:59:54 PM »

Quote from: tommie gorman on September 04, 2006, 04:54:21 PM

Wow at first I thought my dads tree logging experience was going to come into play. Embarassed

LOL!
I thought it was some sort of strange fantasy thread.... :haha:


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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 05:09:50 PM »

Quote from: philp on September 04, 2006, 04:59:54 PM

LOL!
I thought it was some sort of strange fantasy thread.... :haha:

Hi Philp, I am paranoid about loggers, I use the mouse controlled on screen keyboard in Xp to enter my card details , lol: , then I lost my wallet , :whaa:

canceled all the cards . then found my wallet Shocked

anyone else fearfull of using their card online ? or am I really a pillock ( UK expression )


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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2006, 05:17:36 PM »

Quote from: Roco on September 04, 2006, 05:09:50 PM

anyone else fearfull of using their card online ? or am I really a pillock ( UK expression )

It depends on the site. I like sites that have info about their security. Not that that alone determines whether or not I get out my credit card. But it's a comforting feeling, I guess.

Pillock? No, just cautious. ;)


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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2006, 05:24:48 PM »

I hate it also Roco, but I guess sometimes you have to weigh the importance of the transaction. I do it but I hate it. I would rather carry a pocket of cash on my person.(only in reference to).


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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2006, 05:34:48 PM »

Check Ray Stevens "The Haircut Song" it has a part about loggers.


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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2006, 09:25:15 PM »

In Windows 2000/XP Pro, you can use Group Policy to edit how Internet Explorer operates, and how functional it is to the user. You are able to disable the editing of history from Internet Options, so that the browsing history cannot be deleted. You can also disable the user's ability to remove cookies, temporary internet files, etc.

To do this:

click start, click run
type gpedit.msc and hit enter
under User Configuration, expand Adminstrative Templates >> Windows Components
click to select Internet Explorer

Here you will have the option of configuring or disabling dozens of user features in Internet Explorer. In fact, there are endless things you can do in Group Policy.

The one I was thinking of is called Turn off "Delete Browsing History" functionality

Here's the hangup: if you have XP Home, you will not have access to Group Policy. However, there is a way to install it.

I found and tested a guide: http://www.geocities.com/kilian0072002/GPEditHome.htm

I was able to download the DLL files from this site: http://www.webzila.com/?wz=dll

And the ADM files from: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=92759D4B-7112-4B6C-AD4A-BBF3802A5C9B&displaylang=en

Good luck!!


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