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« on: January 08, 2005, 06:57:52 AM »

A very wise comment came to us from another forum, which got me thinking.

i still don't think the speed hickups, or should i say chokes, are a routing problem. i think it's the 100 mbit link to the backbone maxing out. 33 users at 3 mbit=max.

SO, why not limit the tests to seconds?? Sorta like dslreports does. When theirs 50 users testing, it will say

" Test busy, try again in 30 sec "

I think this may limit the bottlenecking, and improve the accuracy since its not trying to burst a milion conections at once.   no?

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2005, 07:10:20 AM »

People will be scared away by that limit, and as you may know, not many like to wait. So unless the routing issues can get fixed without resorting to extreme measures, I'd stay away from such an idea.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2005, 07:14:16 AM »

People dont like to wait?!  well im sorry but, F#@& 'um. I mean for this site to live you need the users, but at what cost? Testmy wouldnt be accurate anymore, but "testmy.net ; almost accurate" . Their is over 200 users here daily, on this ownage FREE testing site,  0 registering, the ones who DO register cant even take the time to validate the email, and the result ??   People getting innacurate test results.. "Drastic" mesures would be making people register to use the tests. But then they would register, never post and test freely..  Mad This is just a minor adjustment to insure this "accurate" test site becomes once again, just that. Accurate  Because when in the early mornings with noone testing someone can get 10 Mbps... then as they day goes on more users begin testing, and their results become 2 Mbps....thats not sticking to the testmy word.    :mad:
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2005, 07:27:18 AM »

this would probably entail a whole and complete rewrite of the whole testing script. but what the hell.
reserve 95mbit of the 100 mbit for the test, maybe 15 of that again for the upload.

let the test run as long as there is at least 10 mbit available for the dl test and 2 for the upload. that way many small timers can test simultaneous, only if several fast ones are dl/ing will the script have to delay a few seconds before it starts the queued clients. the values would have to be monitored and tweaked, but 10mbit avail for down sounds like a good value to ensure that even a fast link like RTB's can stretch it's legs.

that would also prevent getting 30 second waits, since the fast links do even the 3 meg test in 10 seconds or less, freeing the bandwidth up quickly. maybe limit number of tests per ip to 5 a day or so or maybe 30 in a week, so someone doing a lot of tweaking can run a hoopload of tests and then just has to wait a bit for his quota to fill up again.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2005, 07:31:21 AM »

the priority nr 1 must be to make testmy.net generate stable accurate speeds, if its a routing issue, lack of bandwidth, or something else, thats CA3LE´s problems, and bottom line its the planets problem.

He got to know what kinda bandwidth hes buying from the planet, also what bandwidth theplanet has out to other nodes,  if 200 ppl testing at same time it probl require a bandwidth of

with a average of 5Mbps x 200 = 1000 Mbps = 1 Gbps

with a average of 4Mbps x 200 = 800 Mbps = 0.8 Gbps

with a average of 3Mbps x 200 = 600 Mbps = 0.6 Gbps

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2005, 07:39:34 AM »

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We do have a fast server - Dual 2.8GHz Xeon Processors, 2 GB DDR RAM, Rehat Linux, MySQL server, Apache Webserver, PHP, 100 Mbps uplink to a 12 Gbps Direct Fiber network.  testmy.net knows what kind of server is needed to get correct test scores to all users regardless of time of day and server load.


and i don't think, otherwise there is a lot of people with slow connects not taking up much bandwidth, that the number of users shown includes all those people reading/posting on the forum.

only when someone throws down a challenge do they all go to test at the same time, and then get borked results. for my views on adding a short delay, dynamic, at the beginning of the test if necessary, see previous post.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2005, 07:47:57 AM »

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We do have a fast server - Dual 2.8GHz Xeon Processors, 2 GB DDR RAM, Rehat Linux, MySQL server, Apache Webserver, PHP, 100 Mbps uplink to a 12 Gbps Direct Fiber network. testmy.net knows what kind of server is needed to get correct test scores to all users regardless of time of day and server load.[/b]




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and im sorry if others dont agree, but  mr resopalrabotnick  im with you 100 % on this suggestion.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2005, 07:53:16 AM »

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it ain't the server that's the problem. it's the network linkup.

wonder CA3le could have them drop a giggabit card in, but then i kind of doubt the site operator would be thrilled at the idea of blasting 1/12th of his total bandwidth with /gasp/ essentially useless speedtest data.

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2005, 08:08:23 AM »

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We do have a fast server - Dual 2.8GHz Xeon Processors, 2 GB DDR RAM, Rehat Linux, MySQL server, Apache Webserver, PHP, 100 Mbps uplink to a 12 Gbps Direct Fiber network.  testmy.net knows what kind of server is needed to get correct test scores to all users regardless of time of day and server load.


and i don't think, otherwise there is a lot of people with slow connects not taking up much bandwidth, that the number of users shown includes all those people reading/posting on the forum.

only when someone throws down a challenge do they all go to test at the same time, and then get borked results. for my views on adding a short delay, dynamic, at the beginning of the test if necessary, see previous post.
If hes limited to the 100Mbps uplink im suprised scores is not even worce.......  Today alot of ppl shooting at 5 Mbps so a average speed should be around 3-4 Mbps

and you can see in my previous post what kinda bandwidth is required for that  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2005, 08:19:55 AM »

not really all that surprising. i dl at about 2800 Kbps. even the 3 meg test takes me less than 11 seconds to complete.
that's why the server side should monitor all running tests and delay the start of a test for a few seconds if there happens to be a spike. most people would probably not even reall notice a delay of a few seconds, and the advantage to queing them like this would be that everyone is guaranteed a fat chunk of bandwidth for his/her test.
the accuracy would be much improved as a result, making sure test results are reproducable and the unknown factor of <was the link bottlenecked when i tested or did my tweaking bork mine> would be eliminated.

i for one would be more than happy to wait a few seconds for other testers to finish so i could run a clean test. and that would then be an even better thing to advertise with. testmy.net has this awesome loadbalancing so even though it's the most F#@&ing popular site on the planet everyone gets a fair shot at testing.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2005, 08:24:42 AM »

hmm wow...  190 users now testing and ...mabey its a fluke... but i actualy got a good score Surprised !!!


::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 6225 Kbps about 6.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 760 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Bottom Line:: 111 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 1.35 second(s)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=T3G9LH723




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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2005, 08:27:28 AM »



i for one would be more than happy to wait a few seconds for other testers to finish so i could run a clean test. and that would then be an even better thing to advertise with. testmy.net has this awesome loadbalancing so even though it's the most F#@&ing popular site on the planet everyone gets a fair shot at testing.

Lmfao!!  :haha: :haha: :haha: 

Theirs the testmy quote of 2005!
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2005, 08:30:13 AM »

not 190 testing. 190 on site. meaning probably:

100 idling.
50 drooling over their score.
10 cursing their isp for their score
25 perusing the forum
5 testing

proof:

you weren't testing, you were formulating your post, yet you still showed up as on site.
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2005, 08:32:41 AM »

"20 Guests, 8 Users"

Im one of the 28 actualy "on the site" so i dont think i count :p Theirs at least 100 users testing lol. They dont go to  the testmy homepage and say "omg which should i click  now?! O_O "
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2005, 08:44:50 AM »

 :huh: :huh: Well I think CA3LE should put a orgasm button on the site so I can click it over and over while watching you guys argue over this. :haha:
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