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« on: January 27, 2005, 05:20:12 PM »

Cable finally came to my area recently, and I want to get the most out of it that I can.  I know I don't have any serious problems,  but that doesn't mean it can't get a little better.

1.  Windows XP Professional with SP2 integrated

2.  Adelphia PowerLink,  3000Kbps/256Kbps

3.  Currently have Cablenut with VanBuren's  v3 3000/256 tweaks installed.  I have numbers for without the tweaks as well as with.

(No tweaks)
http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:4db3f03?service=cable&speed=3000&os=winXP&via=normal

(3000/256 tweaks)
http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:27545ea?service=cable&speed=3000&os=winXP&via=normal


4. With no tweaks


testmy.net

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 2784 Kbps about 2.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 340 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Thu Jan 27th 2005 11:43 PM GMT
Bottom Line:: 50X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.01 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=SZD3894CJ

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 211 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Upload Speed is:: 26 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Thu Jan 27th 2005 11:46 PM GMT
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB download in 39.38 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=IFPUJ7TGV


http://nitro.ucsc.edu/

click START to re-test
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 223.01kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 2.70Mb/s
The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link


Tracert

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001.

C:\DOCUME~1\JEFFRE~1>tracert testmy.net

Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    32 ms    10 ms    11 ms  67-21-158-1.chvlva.adelphia.net [67.21.158.1]
  2     9 ms    15 ms    12 ms  69-161-20-177.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.177
]
  3     9 ms    11 ms    11 ms  69-161-20-129.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.129
]
  4    27 ms    30 ms    25 ms  69-161-20-125.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.125
]
  5    22 ms    21 ms    24 ms  unk-426d0eb9.adelphiacom.net [66.109.14.185]
  6    28 ms    19 ms    24 ms  g1-03-03-00.a0.cho00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.1.1
62]
  7    42 ms    39 ms    43 ms  p3-00-01-00.c0.atl90.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.1
05]
  8    62 ms    58 ms    55 ms  p3-00-01-00.c1.dfw91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.1
7]
  9    60 ms    64 ms    59 ms  g1-03-02-00.p0.dfw91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.3.7
8]
 10    61 ms    59 ms    59 ms  eq-dallas-1000M.theplanet.com [206.223.118.3]
 11    61 ms    63 ms    59 ms  dist-vlan32.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.62]
 12    57 ms    59 ms    60 ms  dist-vlan22.dsr1-2.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.76]
 13    58 ms    64 ms    59 ms  dsr2-1-v2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.39]
 14    61 ms    59 ms    59 ms  gig1-0-2.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.86]
 15    64 ms    60 ms    59 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6]

Trace complete.



Also with the cablenut v3  3000/256 tweaks

testmy.net

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 2663 Kbps about 2.7 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 325 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Fri Jan 28th 2005 12:03 AM GMT
Bottom Line:: 48X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.15 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=IDVM4A00G

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 217 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Upload Speed is:: 26 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Fri Jan 28th 2005 12:06 AM GMT
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB download in 39.38 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=E0XRDF8IZ


http://nitro.ucsc.edu/

Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 244.29kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 2.69Mb/s
The slowest link in the end-to-end path is a 10 Mbps Ethernet subnet
Information: Other network traffic is congesting the link


Tracert

  1    14 ms    11 ms    11 ms  67-21-158-1.chvlva.adelphia.net [67.21.158.1]
  2     9 ms    15 ms    11 ms  69-161-20-177.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.177
]
  3    13 ms    11 ms    13 ms  69-161-20-129.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.129
]
  4    25 ms    22 ms    23 ms  69-161-20-125.chvlva.adelphia.net [69.161.20.125
]
  5    24 ms    27 ms    27 ms  unk-426d0eb9.adelphiacom.net [66.109.14.185]
  6    26 ms    25 ms    29 ms  g1-03-03-00.a0.cho00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.1.1
62]
  7    36 ms    43 ms    39 ms  p3-00-01-00.c0.atl90.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.1
05]
  8    62 ms    60 ms    58 ms  p3-00-01-00.c1.dfw91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.1
7]
  9    59 ms    63 ms   104 ms  g1-03-02-00.p0.dfw91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.3.7
8]
 10    64 ms    60 ms    61 ms  eq-dallas-1000M.theplanet.com [206.223.118.3]
 11    67 ms    57 ms    63 ms  dist-vlan32.dsr3-2.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.62]
 12    65 ms    59 ms    60 ms  dist-vlan22.dsr1-2.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.76]
 13    64 ms    60 ms    59 ms  dsr2-1-v2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.39]
 14    61 ms    60 ms    59 ms  gig1-0-2.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.86]
 15    64 ms    63 ms    61 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6]

Trace complete.


Hopefully that helps.   Like I said I'm not expecting too much more.  I just want to get everything out of it that I can.  Thanks a lot.

Jeff
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2005, 08:25:41 PM »

Also if anyone could help me with the actual networking portion.  It was suggested that on cable you be running a 10mb half duplex  connection, but I don't know how to change that.  The default seems to be 100mb.  Thanks again.

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2005, 04:00:26 AM »

hey Jeff and welcome to the forum Smile

if you connect your pc direct to the modem, leave the duplex setting at default usally works very well.

however you can try to force 10 Mbps halfduplex

quote from http://dslnuts.com/tips_tricks.shtml

"Windows 2000 or XP: to change to half-duplex:

* Open Control Panel.
* Double-click Network and Dial-up Connections.
* Identify the icon for your cable modem connection: usually Local Area Connection.
* Right-click that icon and select Properties.
* Under the ethernet adapter icon, click the button Configure.
* Click the tab Advanced to bring it to the front:
* In the Property box, the property name to be selected varies according to model of ethernet card. Examples are: Network Link Selection, Media Type, Connection Type, Duplex Mode, or any similarly-named property which can have Values looking like Auto-Negotiation, or 10BT, or 10BaseT.
* In the Value box, select a value which either (a) explicitly says half-duplex or semi-duplex, or (b) at least does not say full-duplex [e.g. 10BaseT on its own is OK]. If there is a choice between 10 and 100 with half-duplex, choose the 10. Do not choose 10Base5, 10Base2, or AUI.
* Click OK to exit the Adapter settings.
* Click OK to exit the Connection properties. "

downloa dthis file i attach and unzip it to C:\Program\Cablenut

now open cablenut adjuster, click delete cablenut tweaks and click save to registry

in top left corner click file, click load custom setting, browse to C:\Program\Cablenut and dubbleclick on the file you unzipped

now click save to registry and reboot, also reboot your modem and router for 30 seconds

make speedtest and that Nitro test, copy all text you find including more info and make a new post

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2005, 06:54:10 AM »

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 2701 Kbps about 2.7 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 330 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Fri Jan 28th 2005 2:01 PM GMT
Bottom Line:: 48X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.1 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=VM21PD4LK

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 219 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Upload Speed is:: 27 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Fri Jan 28th 2005 2:05 PM GMT
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB download in 37.93 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=TSOFBYPQ0



WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 251.19kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 2.71Mb/s

   ------  Client System Details  ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0

   ------  Web100 Detailed Analysis  ------
10 Mbps Ethernet link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
Information: throughput is limited by other network traffic.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 175.23 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
There were 18 packets retransmitted, 466 duplicate acks received, and 87 SACK blocks received
The connection was idle 0 seconds (0%) of the time
This connection is network limited 99.95% of the time.
  Contact your local network administrator to report a network problem
  Contact your local network admin and report excessive packet reordering

    Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Packet size is preserved End-to-End
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Client IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2005, 08:07:02 AM »

you have some re transmissions

quote "Web100 reports the Round trip time = 175.23 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
There were 18 packets retransmitted, 466 duplicate acks received, and 87 SACK blocks received"

you need to finetune TcpWindowSize and GlobalMaxTcpWindowsize

check this post how to do...

http://testmy.net/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg19795#msg19795

your MSS is 1460

your Bandwidth is 3 Mbps = 375 kB/s

try diffrent latency i would suggest to go lower and see if the re transmissions in Nitrotest decrease

the tweakfile using 250 ms but i would suggest 220 ms  first

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2005, 11:01:57 PM »

I've found that most pings between 160 and 220 give very similar results, although at 180 things run smoother so I'll just leave it at that right now.  Its more stable and I upload faster now,, which is great.  Still drop 18 packets, but that's all the lower it seems to go.  Thanks a lot.

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 2788 Kbps about 2.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 340 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Sat Jan 29 2005 01:00:15 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 50X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.01 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-Y5R03QGEA

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 217 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Upload Speed is:: 26 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Sat Jan 29 2005 00:56:07 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 39.38 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-C0GBX9472



WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 251.19kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 2.70Mb/s

   ------  Client System Details  ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0

   ------  Web100 Detailed Analysis  ------
10 Mbps Ethernet link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
Information: throughput is limited by other network traffic.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 175.06 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
There were 18 packets retransmitted, 481 duplicate acks received, and 89 SACK blocks received
The connection was idle 0 seconds (0%) of the time
This connection is network limited 99.95% of the time.
  Contact your local network administrator to report a network problem
  Contact your local network admin and report excessive packet reordering

    Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Packet size is preserved End-to-End
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Client IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2005, 07:24:47 PM »

One more thing that I didn't do.  I didn't give the detailed stats from the nitro test with no tweaks, so this is is.  No packet loss, but I don't know how to fix the ordering and the receive buffer.


   ------  Client System Details  ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0

   ------  Web100 Detailed Analysis  ------
10 Mbps Ethernet link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
No network congestion discovered.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 178.40 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
No packet loss - but packets arrived out-of-order 35.58% of the time
This connection is receiver limited 88.39% of the time.
  Increasing the current receive buffer (63.0 KB) will improve performance
This connection is network limited 11.55% of the time.
  Contact your local network admin and report excessive packet reordering

    Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: OFF
Packet size is preserved End-to-End
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Client IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2005, 01:39:46 AM »

you need to find the balance, using as big receive buffer without re transmissions

you can try using a file with smaller Recivebuffer

eg 2000 256

i attach it, report back how it works

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2005, 07:11:31 PM »

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 2784 Kbps about 2.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 340 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Tue Feb 01 2005 21:06:45 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 50X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.01 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-F3R8AVU50

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 218 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Upload Speed is:: 27 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Tue Feb 01 2005 21:09:14 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 37.93 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-7FM5HSV1Q

WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 246.93kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 2.71Mb/s

   ------  Client System Details  ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0

   ------  Web100 Detailed Analysis  ------
10 Mbps Ethernet link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
Information: throughput is limited by other network traffic.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 177.56 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
There were 18 packets retransmitted, 486 duplicate acks received, and 82 SACK blocks received
The connection was idle 0 seconds (0%) of the time
This connection is network limited 99.94% of the time.
  Contact your local network administrator to report a network problem
  Contact your local network admin and report excessive packet reordering

    Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Packet size is preserved End-to-End
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Client IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2005, 04:19:32 AM »

try this, reload the version 3 tweak 3000 256 and change these

TcpWindowSize to 64240
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize to 64240
Tcp13230pts to 0

now click save to registry

make a new speedtest, use the 2992 KB test downstream and 1492 KB test upstream

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2005, 11:46:45 AM »

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 2784 Kbps about 2.8 Mbps (tested with 2992 KB)
Download Speed is:: 340 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Wed Feb 02 2005 13:44:09 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 50X faster than 56K 1MB download in 3.01 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-ARUBNVFHE

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 218 Kbps about 0.2 Mbps (tested with 1496 KB)
Upload Speed is:: 27 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Wed Feb 02 2005 13:45:35 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 4X faster than 56K 1MB upload in 37.93 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-KY02PM3HR


WEB100 Enabled Statistics:
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 245.96kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 2.70Mb/s

   ------  Client System Details  ------
OS data: Name = Windows XP, Architecture = x86, Version = 5.1
Java data: Vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc., Version = 1.5.0

   ------  Web100 Detailed Analysis  ------
10 Mbps Ethernet link found.
Link set to Full Duplex mode
Information: throughput is limited by other network traffic.
Good network cable(s) found
Normal duplex operation found.

Web100 reports the Round trip time = 178.53 msec; the Packet size = 1460 Bytes; and
There were 18 packets retransmitted, 493 duplicate acks received, and 90 SACK blocks received
The connection was idle 0 seconds (0%) of the time
This connection is network limited 99.94% of the time.
  Contact your local network administrator to report a network problem
  Contact your local network admin and report excessive packet reordering

    Web100 reports TCP negotiated the optional Performance Settings to:
RFC 2018 Selective Acknowledgment: ON
RFC 896 Nagle Algorithm: ON
RFC 3168 Explicit Congestion Notification: OFF
RFC 1323 Time Stamping: OFF
RFC 1323 Window Scaling: ON
Packet size is preserved End-to-End
Server IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
Client IP addresses are preserved End-to-End
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2005, 11:54:29 AM »

tahts around 90% of your advertised speed........couldnt ask for much more....

looks like van did as much as he could and it looks decent too me.......

if you want your upload to be better... you could change your default send window in cablenut

id change that one to about 54680 or somewhere around there...hope i helped...

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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2005, 12:17:52 PM »

Justin is right, there is not much left to do, and you can try increasing DefaultSendWindow i suggest 47104

good luck

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2005, 01:47:21 PM »

van's 47104 defaultsendwindow is probably more close than mine.......a higher number is always better, but with tcp sizing....its not....

go with his and see wutcha get Smile
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