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A High Court judge who ruled on whether climate change film, An Inconvenient Truth, could be shown in schools said it contains "nine scientific errors".
Mr Justice Burton said the government could still send the film to schools - if accompanied by guidance giving the other side of the argument.
He was ruling on an attempt by a Kent school governor to ban the film from secondary schools.
The Oscar-winning film was made by former US Vice-President Al Gore.
The judge said nine statements in the film were not supported by mainstream scientific consensus.
In his final verdict, the judge said the film could be shown as long as updated guidelines were followed.
These say teachers should point out controversial or disputed sections.
Without the guidance, updated after the case was launched, the government would have been breaking the law, the judge said.
The government has sent the film to all secondary schools in England, and the administrations in Wales and Scotland have done the same.
'Landmark victory'
Mr Justice Burton told London's High Court that distributing the film without the guidance to counter its "one-sided" views would breach education laws.
The Department for Children, Schools and Families was not under a duty to forbid the film, provided it was accompanied by the guidance, he said.
"I conclude that the claimant substantially won this case by virtue of my finding that, but for the new guidance note, the film would have been distributed in breach of sections 406 and 407 of the 1996 Education Act", he said.
The nine errors stated by the judge included:
Mr Gore's assertion that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of ice in either West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future". The judge said this was "distinctly alarmist" and it was common ground that if Greenland's ice melted it would release this amount of water - "but only after, and over, millennia".
Mr Gore's assertion that the disappearance of snow on Mount Kilimanjaro in East Africa was expressly attributable to global warming - the court heard the scientific consensus was that it cannot be established the snow recession is mainly attributable to human-induced climate change.
Mr Gore's reference to a new scientific study showing that, for the first time, polar bears had actually drowned "swimming long distances - up to 60 miles - to find the ice". The judge said: "The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm."
The case was brought by school governor Stewart Dimmock, from Dover, a father of two.
His lawyers described the ruling as a "landmark victory".
Mr Dimmock said: "I am elated with today's result, but still disappointed that the film is able to be shown in schools.
"If it was not for the case brought by myself, our young people would still be being indoctrinated with this political spin."
The judge awarded Mr Dimmock two-thirds of his estimated legal costs of more than £200,000, against the government.
BBC environment analyst Roger Harrabin said the ruling would be "embarrassing for Mr Gore" but would not affect the government, which said it is happy that the judge did not dismiss the film's mainstream argument.
But, he added, this controversy could encourage the public to think there was scientific doubt about the facts of climate change.
Children's Minister Kevin Brennan had earlier said: "It is important to be clear that the central arguments put forward in An Inconvenient Truth, that climate change is mainly caused by man-made emissions of greenhouse gases and will have serious adverse consequences, are supported by the vast weight of scientific opinion.
"Nothing in the judge's comments today detract from that."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm
Published: 2007/10/10 21:53:22 GMT
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Holy farts batman, Gore is money motivated only. We should not have to subject our kids to this bologna. I feel our kids are smarter than this. They deserve the truth.
It's like forcing them to read the Koran and other religions. Pure crap. And forcing the little tykes to choose spanish to be a second language. One of these days I hope this all passes like bad gas after a chili cookoff. Take 2 alka-seltzers and it all goes away in one big boom.
Give the decisions back to the parents. For GOODness sakes.
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I would have been quite surprised if the movie didn't have any scientific errors, for it does have a whole lot of evidence. Still, the movie seemed to me more scientifically grounded both concerning its sources and its conclusions than most of the Michael Moore stuff.
I find it a good ruling to be able to display the movie and especially to show both views in class. I hope it can create constructive discussion, which is much less indoctrination than just letting the parents decide what the kids should believe.
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Gore wins 1/2 a Nobel Peace Prize???
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/
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al gore invented the Nobel Peace prize
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Check these.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=6e47699e-c404-4c61-a8e0-264d239631ae
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As vice president during the Clinton era, Al Gore did certainly share all the responsibility for the huge crimes against humanity his administration inflicted upon millions of people on this planet. Just let’s remember the genocidal UN embargo and the illegal bombing of the notorious No Fly Zones in Iraq; and then Sudan, Yugoslavia and many other places where Uncle Sam has always been terrifying millions of people with its ugly arrogance and deadly violence. In 1991, before becoming vice president, Al Gore was one of ten Democratic Senators who voted in favor of the first Gulf War. This is just a very brief biography of a top war criminal that in a sane world would be hanged or imprisoned for life.
But we are not living in a sane world – just in case someone wonders – and it’s not the first time that a war criminal and mass murderer has been rewarded with the Nobel Peace Prize. Al Gore has now joined the Pantheon where Jimmy Carter and Henry Kissinger already gave a shivery accent to the word "peace". But it could be the first time that a war criminal and Nobel Peace Prize laureate run to become the new Amerikan Emperor. He would certainly be no worse than the narrow-minded, wicked she-Clinton or the frightening, opportunist Obama and with much blood already on his hands and a Nobel Peace Prize in the Oval Office, hopefully Al Gore would use some restraint as head of the deadliest war machine in history.
http://uruknet.info/?p=m37148&s1=h1
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Kansans take Nobel news in stride
After waking up early this morning to hear who won this year’s Nobel Peace Prize, champions of a Holocaust heroine were hoping to hear her name.
A small group had gathered in Fort Scott, Kan., including some of the students and their former history teacher who have revealed the unsung works of Irena Sendler to the world. Sendler, who rescued 2,500 children during the Holocaust, had been mentioned in recent weeks as a top contender for the prize.
When Sendler didn’t win, and Al Gore and a U.N panel did for their work in global warming, it was disappointing but OK, said Norm Conard, the former teacher who suggested back in 1999 that students do a history project on the Polish woman.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/314493.html
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U.S. Nobel Peace Prize Laureates
NPR.org, October 12, 2007 · The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to individuals and organizations. Here are the laureates from the United States:
1906: Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States. Collaborator on various peace treaties, most notably the end of the Japanese-Russian war.
1912: Elihu Root, Former Secretary of State. Originator of various treaties of arbitration.
1919: Thomas Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States. Founder of the League of Nations.
1925: Charles Gates Dawes, Vice President of the United States. Chairman of Allied Reparation Commission. (Shared with Sir Austen Chamberlain of the U.K., Foreign Secretary; Part Originator of Locarno Pact.)
1929: Frank Billings Kellogg, Former Secretary of State. Part-originator of Briand-Kellogg Pact, an international treaty "providing for the renunciation of war as an instrument of national policy."
1931: Jane Adams, Sociologist. International President, Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. Nicholas Murray Butler, President, Columbia University. Promoter of Briand-Kellogg Pact.
1945: Cordell Hull, Former Secretary of State. Prominent participant in the creation of the United Nations.
1946: Emily Greene Balch, Former Professor of History and Sociology; Honorary International President, Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. John Raleigh Mott, Chairman, International Missionary Council; President, World Alliance of Young Men's Christian Associations.
1947: American Friends Service Committee (The Quakers), Philadelphia, Pa. First official meeting 1672. (Shared with the Friends Service Council (The Quakers) in London, U.K. Founded in 1647.)
1950: Ralph Bunche, Professor at Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass. Director, Division of Trusteeship, U.N. Acting Mediator in Palestine, 1948.
1953: George Catlett Marshall, General President American Red Cross. Ex-Secretary of State and of Defense. Originator of Marshall Plan for the redevelopment of Europe following World War II.
1962: Linus Carl Pauling, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. Honored for his campaign against above-ground nuclear testing. (Pauling won the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1954.)
1964: Martin Luther King, Jr., Leader of Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
1965: United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), New York, N.Y. Founded by the U.N. in 1946.
1970: Norman E. Borlaug, International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center, Mexico City.
1973: Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State, State Department. (Shared with Le Duc Tho, Democratic Republic of Vietnam.)
1985: International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, Boston, Mass.
1986: Elie Wiesel, Chairman, The President's Commission on the Holocaust.
1997: International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Launched in 1992. Jody Williams, Putney, Vermont.
2002: Jimmy Carter, Former President of the United States. For decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development.
2007: Albert Arnold Gore, Jr., Former Vice President of the United States. For efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change. (Shared with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Founded in 1988.)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15231381
YOu really have to wonder how a majic show of deception won.
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Tommy, don't forget that if gore hadn't voted for those wars, you would have called him a pussy that was afraid to commit. Don't forget that you, I, and the Ottawa Citizen, we are all just as opportunist as Obama.
On another subject, here's an interesting video I found. Tell me what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIFspVzfI
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Try once more wrapping yourself around this. I think dlobal warming does exist, but not that we are doing it. I believe it is the earth shifting on its axis as predicted many times. And no we can not do a damn thing about it. So in reality there will still be just as much cold area on earth, but it might be important to get moved to get the same climate we are accustomed to. In other words those in florida may no longer be at a wonderful temp like they are now. That same temp and such might be somewhere else now. And Arizona desert may no longer be dry and parched.
Now as to Al Gore. He is in it for the money very much like Donald Trump. If not for the public, they would both be nobody.
Does Al Gore really care? No, look at the way he personally lives.
Instead of just arguing about what causes it, and handing out undeserved recognition to Al (yes similar to Al Sharpton). Why not spend the same money on earth friendly fuels for cars and homes. Much less tree stripping in the name of lumber. So many things besides useless videos like that one.
So yes I stil say Al Gore's global warming is nothing more than a political statement for the democrats.
And yes we need to prepare for it. But not because we can stop it. But because it will make a better earth no matter where we get shifted to.
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