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« on: February 13, 2005, 04:10:52 AM »
Help, please! Smile My connection, low as it is already, works really lame Sad( Low and variable download speeds, no network activity etc. BTW, I'm from Europe...

OS: win XP sp1
Cable internet, 64kbs (at least that's what my ISP told me, not sure about cable/isdn Razz)
Installed Cablenut - Cable & DSL 64 64 settings applied

Broadband reports test -

http://ttester.broadbandreports.com/tweak/block:50a3b40?service=cable&speed=64&os=winXP&via=normal


testmy.net test - 2 tests

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 45 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 97 KB)
Download Speed is:: 5 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Sun Feb 13 12:43:23 UTC+0200 2005
Bottom Line:: 1X faster than 56K 1MB download in 204.8 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-JTIWBEXOD

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 17 Kbps about 0 Mbps (tested with 579 KB)
Download Speed is:: 2 kB/s
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Test Time:: Sun Feb 13 12:33:17 UTC+0200 2005
Bottom Line:: 0X faster than 56K 1MB download in 512 sec
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/id-O75EXV0KM


UCSC Web100 based Network Diagnostic Tester (NDT) - 3 consecutive tests (show really well how my

connection acts really weird and how the speeds vary a lot)

TCP/Web100 Network Diagnostic Tool v5.2.1e
click START to begin
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 31.53kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 10.09kB/s

click START to re-test
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 32.89kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 19.04kB/s
Your PC is connected to a Cable/DSL modem

click START to re-test
Checking for Middleboxes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Done
running 10s outbound test (client to server) . . . . . 51.61kB/s
running 10s inbound test (server to client) . . . . . . 40.95kB/s
Your PC is connected to a Dial-up Modem


Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bb0-1-0-unr.drc.ro [212.146.86.137]
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  tm2-fe0-0-vl9.fibertm.ro [212.146.80.133]
  4    63 ms    65 ms    16 ms  193.226.174.229
  5     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  r01-PO3-0.ard2.RO.gtsce.net [193.226.179.49]
  6    72 ms    54 ms     6 ms  r01-Gi6-0.ora1.ro.gtsce.net [193.226.187.25]
  7    22 ms    23 ms    88 ms  fra-tr1-p0-2-0.gtsce.net [195.39.208.81]
  8    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  195.39.208.122
  9   167 ms   145 ms     *     de-cix.fra.above.net [80.81.192.226]
 10  1042 ms   879 ms   833 ms  so-0-0-0.cr2.fra1.de.mfnx.net [208.184.102.142]

 11   904 ms   973 ms   950 ms  pos11-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net [64.125.29.149]
 12  1719 ms   318 ms   147 ms  so-4-1-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.185.156.2]
 13   213 ms     *      278 ms  so-7-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.165]
 14  2730 ms     *     2555 ms  so-6-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.70]
 15  1106 ms     *     2583 ms  216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]
 16  2382 ms   820 ms   342 ms  dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.29]
 17   360 ms   245 ms   350 ms  dist-vlan21.dsr1-1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.67]
 18   184 ms   144 ms   145 ms  dsr2-2-v1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.8]
 19   314 ms   412 ms   244 ms  gig1-0-1.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.70]
 20   322 ms     *      402 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6]

Trace complete.

Under the LAN connection protocols there are installed:
- Client for microsoft networks (checked)
- File and printer sharing for microsoft networks (unchecked)
- QoS packet scheduler (checked)
- Internet protocol (TCP/IP) (checked)

Network adapter - Realtek RTL8139/810x family fast ethernet NIC - Link speed/Duplex mode: 10Mbs/Half duplex

Firewall used - Kaspersky anti hacker (tried Sygate but after I install Sygate my connection simply freezes, even if I set allow all trafic or even after I close the firewall)

Ran CC Cleaner, Spybot S&D, Ad-Aware SE, Kaspersky antivirus - all clear Smile

Help, please! Smile Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 04:16:51 AM »
have u got the 128kB/s package or the 64kB/s package?

have you read http://testmy.net/topic-2097?

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005, 04:19:08 AM »
hey arlechinu and welcome to the forum Smile

that traceroute dosent look good

sign up here and make a linequality test http://www.dslreports.com/tools

disable firewall during test, or config it to allow ICMP traffic

"Line Packet Loss Testing
Packet loss tests on your line, including identification of any problem routers en-route to you.."

its free

when you see result, copy URL adress and paste it here so we can see it

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005, 04:30:53 AM »
hi! thanx for the welcome Smile

i have the 64kb package (at least in theory ;))

i tried the line quality test but it would appear that my ip address is not pingable  Shocked

i'll try again and post the link to the test results here in a few minutes

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2005, 04:44:44 AM »
http://www.dslreports.com/quality/nil/1653144
http://www.dslreports.com/quality/nil/1653127

is it just me or do these tests look really bad? Sad
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2005, 04:48:09 AM »
Quote from: arlechinu on February 13, 2005, 04:44:44 AM
http://www.dslreports.com/quality/nil/1653144
http://www.dslreports.com/quality/nil/1653127

is it just me or do these tests look really bad? Sad
yea these looks really bad  cry

Email these links to your ISP and let them fix the packetloss

when they fixed it, come back here and we can tweak your connection

good luck

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2005, 05:32:18 AM »
thought so... Sad

i have already sent an email to my isp
hopefully they'll do something about it...

apart from this, is there anything else i should try and tweak?

thanx!
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2005, 05:41:36 AM »
not at this point, you need to get rid of the packetloss first

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2005, 06:53:15 AM »
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14  2730 ms     *     2555 ms  so-6-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.70]
 15  1106 ms     *     2583 ms  216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]
 16  2382 ms   820 ms   342 ms  dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.29]

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2005, 08:13:39 AM »
allright... here's the reply i got from my isp...

quote:
"i took a look at those links too. i think you should do more research before you claim stuff like that. first of all lots of packets are blocked by the server at those tests. seconda of all, usa is quite a long way from here, it is normal you should have a larger ping"

dunno, i'm not a networking expert, but this sounds like BS Razz can anyone here with some more experience with these things help me out? please... is there any truth in what he's saying or is he simply stupid? Very Happy help me out with a reply for this guy Smile

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2005, 08:33:33 AM »
i pinged all those nodes and its no packetloss for me now.....

8    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  195.39.208.122
  9   167 ms   145 ms     *     de-cix.fra.above.net [80.81.192.226]
 10  1042 ms   879 ms   833 ms  so-0-0-0.cr2.fra1.de.mfnx.net [208.184.102.142]

there is a routing issue between your ISP and node 9 and 10 and that is something your ISP should be aware of...

make a new traceroute now and lets see if it changed

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2005, 08:53:28 AM »
http://www.dslreports.com/quality/nil/1653287

and the tracert

Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bb0-1-0-unr.drc.ro [212.146.86.137]
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  tm2-fe0-0-vl9.fibertm.ro [212.146.80.133]
  4     1 ms     2 ms     2 ms  193.226.174.229
  5     4 ms     3 ms     4 ms  r01-PO3-0.ard2.RO.gtsce.net [193.226.179.49]
  6     *      257 ms    74 ms  r01-Gi6-0.ora1.ro.gtsce.net [193.226.187.25]
  7   484 ms   254 ms   431 ms  fra-tr1-p0-2-0.gtsce.net [195.39.208.81]
  8   149 ms    23 ms    67 ms  195.39.208.122
  9   188 ms    23 ms    23 ms  de-cix.fra.above.net [80.81.192.226]
 10    23 ms    24 ms    24 ms  so-0-0-0.cr2.fra1.de.mfnx.net [208.184.102.142]

 11    44 ms    45 ms    44 ms  pos11-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net [64.125.29.149]
 12    74 ms    44 ms     *     so-4-1-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.185.156.2]
 13   228 ms   285 ms   175 ms  so-7-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.165]
 14   318 ms   331 ms   209 ms  so-6-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.70]
 15   207 ms   143 ms   143 ms  216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]
 16   144 ms   143 ms   144 ms  dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.29]
 17   145 ms   144 ms   144 ms  dist-vlan21.dsr1-1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.67]
 18   144 ms   144 ms   144 ms  dsr2-2-v1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.8]
 19   191 ms   241 ms   144 ms  gig1-0-1.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.70]
 20   215 ms   145 ms   144 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6]

Trace complete.

this is really weird, i get very different results from one test to another... very volatile connection if i may say so Sad and this second one is not the worse i've seen...


Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    32 ms    30 ms    37 ms  10.10.10.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  bb0-1-0-unr.drc.ro [212.146.86.137]
  3     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  tm2-fe0-0-vl9.fibertm.ro [212.146.80.133]
  4   339 ms   339 ms   481 ms  193.226.174.229
  5    67 ms    98 ms     *     r01-PO3-0.ard2.RO.gtsce.net [193.226.179.49]
  6     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  r01-Gi6-0.ora1.ro.gtsce.net [193.226.187.25]
  7    28 ms    22 ms    23 ms  fra-tr1-p0-2-0.gtsce.net [195.39.208.81]
  8    23 ms    22 ms    22 ms  195.39.208.122
  9    23 ms    23 ms    23 ms  de-cix.fra.above.net [80.81.192.226]
 10    26 ms    64 ms    48 ms  so-0-0-0.cr2.fra1.de.mfnx.net [208.184.102.142]

 11    44 ms    44 ms    44 ms  pos11-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.above.net [64.125.29.149]
 12   236 ms    82 ms    44 ms  so-4-1-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.185.156.2]
 13   115 ms   160 ms   115 ms  so-7-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.165]
 14     *      144 ms   143 ms  so-6-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.70]
 15   143 ms   144 ms   144 ms  216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]
 16   175 ms   143 ms   144 ms  dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.29]
 17   179 ms   144 ms   145 ms  dist-vlan21.dsr1-1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.67]
 18   144 ms   144 ms   145 ms  dsr2-2-v1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.8]
 19     *      268 ms   242 ms  gig1-0-1.tp-car9-2.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.70]
 20   228 ms   209 ms   198 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6]

Trace complete.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2005, 08:56:05 AM »
First its the 4th hop problem, then the 7th. Im beginning to think its not the hops at all.  Meaning, you have somethign drawing from your overall upload bandwidth which causes ping spikes  at random times. Have you checked for viruses or spyware or ANY other programs that could be drawing from your bandwidth?

heres an example.

tracert with all bandwidth free:

Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     6 ms     7 ms     6 ms  10.102.192.1
  2     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms  atm5-0-644.tampflerl-rtr1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92
.7.42]
  3     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  srp8-0.tampflerl-rtr3.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.8.2
27]
  4     8 ms     8 ms     7 ms  so-0-2-0-0.gar1.Tampa1.Level3.net [209.0.96.1]
  5     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  so-7-0-0.mp1.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.68.124.9]
  6     8 ms     7 ms    30 ms  as-2-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.159.3.217]
  7    31 ms    95 ms   201 ms  ge-1-1-55.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.134]

  8   269 ms    32 ms   203 ms  ge-1-2-54.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.102]  <- wow?

  9    32 ms    32 ms    31 ms  4.78.220.10
 10    32 ms    32 ms    30 ms  dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.29]
 11    32 ms    32 ms    31 ms  dist-vlan21.dsr1-1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.67]
 12    34 ms    31 ms    31 ms  gig1-0-1.tp-car9-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.69]
 13    32 ms    31 ms    32 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6]

Trace complete.

tracing with drawing upload

Tracing route to testmy.net [67.19.36.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     6 ms     5 ms     5 ms  10.102.192.1
  2    14 ms    11 ms    15 ms  atm5-0-644.tampflerl-rtr1.tampabay.rr.com [24.92
.7.42]
  3     8 ms     8 ms     7 ms  srp8-0.tampflerl-rtr3.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.8.2
27]
  4     9 ms     9 ms    11 ms  so-0-2-0-0.gar1.Tampa1.Level3.net [209.0.96.1]
  5    13 ms    14 ms     8 ms  so-7-0-0.gar2.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.68.124.14]
  6     8 ms    31 ms     9 ms  so-7-0-0.mp2.Tampa1.Level3.net [4.68.124.17]
  7    31 ms    32 ms    31 ms  ae-0-0.bbr2.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.159.1.110]
  8    31 ms    32 ms    31 ms  ge-1-2-54.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.102]

  9    46 ms    33 ms   189 ms  dist-vlan31.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.29]
  -> 10    33 ms   202 ms    31 ms  dist-vlan21.dsr1-1.dllstx2.theplanet.com [70.85.
127.67]
 11   124 ms   179 ms   179 ms  dsr2-1-v1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [12.96.160.7]
 12   152 ms    87 ms    92 ms  gig1-0-1.tp-car9-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.69]
 13   150 ms    95 ms    87 ms  gig1-0-1.tp-car9-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.18.
116.69]
 14   153 ms    90 ms   180 ms  6.67-19-36.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.36.6] <-

Trace complete.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2005, 09:06:22 AM »
do you have a router arlechinu?

if so bypass it and connect your NIC direct to modem

also update your NIC driver

now make a new traceroute

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2005, 09:11:43 AM »
just pinged this node 100 times

6     *      257 ms    74 ms  r01-Gi6-0.ora1.ro.gtsce.net [193.226.187.25]

and no loss for me

Ping-statistik för 193.226.187.25:
    Paket: Skickade = 100, mottagna = 100, Förlorade = 0 (0 %),
Ungefärligt överföringstid i millisekunder:
    Lägsta = 82 ms, Högsta = 83 ms, Medel = 82 ms

so it must be something, NIC, router or bad wire that cause this loss

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