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« on: July 12, 2004, 08:16:12 PM »

I'm trying to use my cable modem for Xbox live. What can I do to upgrade my modem to be extremly fast for online play? Oh, and by the way, give it to me simple, I don't understand most of this stuff.

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My current d/u is 2846/238. i'd like to make a server that can have up to 16 players with no lag. I've been on other servers where the host is running 16 players with cable modem (same as mine). Any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2004, 02:24:04 AM »

There's a very good chance your download/upload is fast enough already to handle the xbox' online gaming. I don't see how you can improve the speed, when there's nothing obvious to tweak. Unless the Xbox has a few options itself, which I doubt.

Why do you want to be extremely fast?
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2004, 10:33:02 AM »

If I remember correctly xbox live is hosted on servers.. unlike xbconnect... Which means that if the server is under load and the bandwidth is being sucked up then everyone is running slow...  My guess is that it isnt you but the server on the other end... The only suggestion is to get into games with low ping numbers and hope for the best... Post you advertized speed and we can let you know if you have the right stuff to play... I can play with my 4300/256 connection really well... Bairly any lag..
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2004, 04:46:47 PM »

::::::::::.. Upload Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is: 347 Kbps about 0.3 Mbps (tested with 97 KB)
Upload Speed is: 42 kB/sec
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Bottom Line: 6 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 24.38 second(s)
Validation Link :: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=OKSOO7LXV

those are my results i am experiencing the same xbox live problem i absolutely CANT play because i lag too much and i can only host games with 4 people and i am using a high speed cable modem. any suggestions?
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2004, 04:48:32 PM »

::::::::::.. Download Stats ..::::::::::
Connection is:: 858 Kbps about 0.9 Mbps (tested with 579 KB)
Download Speed is:: 105 kB/sec
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Bottom Line:: 15 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 9.75 second(s)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=CH9YBTS43


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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2004, 05:51:45 PM »

ok the requirement for xbox live are... I am almost positive that the requirements are 256kbs upload and atleast 512kbs download... I dont understand what is going on with your connection...  The only thing that I can recommend is to check out the faq on xbox.com http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/live/default.htm  That should take you to the connection faq... read about that stuff... If that doesnt work what kind of network setup do you currently have??   If your router doesnt support xbox live you could be out of luck...maybe... There might be a firmware update that will allow you to connect...  Have you ever been able to play??
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2004, 07:33:56 PM »

yes i have been able to play successfully with a good connection, just recently my connection has dropped dramatically and has stayed low for the past 2 weeks. there is no router problem because i use a direct connection but my connection has been just horrible and i am unable to play at all.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2004, 10:50:24 AM »

Direct connect... does that involve a computer??
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2004, 11:40:33 AM »

it is from the xbox to the modem
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2004, 01:42:16 PM »

so you cant play at all??  If you are trying to host a 16 player game good luck... you are going to need atleast 256kbs upload for every player.... So close to 4mbs upload... The people who tell you that you can host a 14 or 16 player game on a 350kbs upload line are full of S#!t.... there isnt enough bandwidth in the upstream.... The only way that you can do it is to get a t3 line which run at either 15mbs or 45mbs.... o yea it is $10,000 per month....  If you cant join a game then that is a different story... I just re-read your original post and it is talking about hosting a huge muitplayer game...  There are very few people who can actually host a game on a residential service... Most of the time they are hosting on a college campus which has really fast upload/download speeds.... You figure you have 20000+ people on a network you are going to need some serious bandwidth to feed everyones wants and  wishes... The sad part is that hardly anyone uses the upload... So when you have tons of download you are going to have all sorts of upload just sitting around... Bingo you have a line that can host 14 or 16 players... with out breaking a sweat...
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2004, 02:01:53 PM »

Ok i did some research into xbox live and what you are going to need to host a 16 player game...
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I'm gonna switch from a 1mb down 160k up dsl connection to a cable 4.1mb down and 800kb up connection.

Now, my question is will I be able to host 16 player xbox games or 16 player pc games lag free? (pc games like unreal 2004 let's say)

Will you be able to always host games lag-free? No. It's the Internet. There's a lot of variables outside of the link between you and your ISP.

Does your ISP even guarantee that the connection will always be over that certain speed they quoted you?

What about other players in the game? If a player in your session has a slow cable/dsl connection (and many do!), then it's likely they're going to be skipping around the 3D world in your "lag-free environment."

There are other local factors to consider. If you are on a shared pipe with your neighbors and the kid next door is serving up pirated copies of popular movies on P2P, your connection's going to feel it.

Ultimately, it sounds like you'll have a great network connection and things should go extremely well for you most of the time. However, anyone making guarantees of lag-free gaming is not being entirely truthful.

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That just referenced a dude with a 4000/800 connection... I did however read about some one with a 600 upload playing Counter Strike with no/minimal lag on a home setup...  I cant tell you that upgrading your current connection will help anything improve... Try hosting a 6 or 8 player game... You should have the upload for that.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2004, 09:04:54 PM »

i can only host 4 person servers my connection is that slow Sad  any suggestions
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2004, 11:21:54 AM »

dont host... It isnt that big of a deal...  Join a clan or find someone who has a really fast connection that you can play with
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2004, 02:12:27 PM »

no i cant play either my connection all of a sudden got unbelieviably slow and now i cant join games because my connection is 2 bad and i have a cable modem also
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2004, 02:18:24 PM »

Complaining to your ISP might help, as well as upgrading. Rolling Eyes
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