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« on: September 30, 2004, 02:04:17 PM »

I am wondering if you can damage your CPU is you overcloak because I think I might have damaged it because I have a 2.8GHz P4 and I have this program that lets me over cloak alot and I set the cloaking really high several times and when I did that the computer shutdown so I thought it was ok because the CPU still works but know when I use it the program always try to set the speed of the CPU at 1.4 and I was wonderign if maybe I could have messed up half of it or if I could have blown half of it up and it still work. Please help me thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2004, 04:03:48 PM »

well first of all you shouldnt be playing with that stuff is you dont know what you are doing.. yes you can distroy your computer by OVERCLOCKING!   the reason that it kept shutting down was to prevent it from killing itself.. it is possible that you have damaged to the point that it is only going to run at 1.4 and still be stable...  Try returning it to the stock 2.8 and dont mess with it anymore!
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2004, 06:14:28 AM »

Not to discredit you, Swimmer, but usually a CPU is either working or not working.  I have never seen a case of overclocking that resulted in the proc only being able to run at half speed.  Usually, if anything bad happens from overclocking, it usually ends up with a trip to newegg.

I would say that if your computer even boots, then it's probably still ok.  Set everything back to the way it was, and enjoy your computer the way it is.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 06:39:04 AM »

I have heard of CPU's being crippled.. meaning that if you go over the max heat the processor becomes weaker and can not sustain the normal operating speed...  Meaning that it isnt stable at the speed it was sold at...  Tom's Hardware had one of these experiences... It is just an unknown factor i guess..
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2004, 06:50:37 AM »

I've heard of them actually kicking off due to the heat. If that chip was being seriously overc'd, maybe it was near meltdown and the board shut the system down.
That's why I picked up a Fan Master. I can actually see the true temp and control the fans in my case. At times I need to increase the cpu fan to cool that puppy down.


http://www.extremeMHz.com/SF_Fanmstr-p1.shtml

If you like to push your cpu, you really need something like this. This is what I got and it serves the purpose.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2004, 12:42:20 PM »

Here is a good overclocking manual... it is from toms hardware.. you can see what they got for their chip... http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041001/index.html  this is more for amd users but it does show what it would do against their Intel counterparts...
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2004, 01:04:02 PM »

More than likely what was happening was, the computer was shutting down because the chip didn't have enough Vcore to run at that speed. Reset CMOS and make sure evrything is set back to stock speeds.

Usually your comp will shut down before it damages itself from heat but not always. Like they said above do some research before you OC or you will fry something eventually if you haven't already. Smile
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2004, 12:15:25 PM »

Smile Yeah,
I believe that the CPU is OK there may be a CMOS issue but, as luwigie said I have never seen a clock speed only work to a portion of its capacity because its been overclocked....it either works or it doesnt....of course anything is possible. I have seen and heard chips snap,crackle and pop....lol ....my best guess is there is another issue with this puter, and its been said if one doesn't have a good working knowledge of what your doing it may be better for the kids (or adults)not to try this at home.....lol it can really get expensive and it is stuff I don't mess with anymore because when I blow it up now I'm paying the bill, when the company I worked for was buying the parts it never seemed like a big deal ....hehe although if ya have deep pockets  it sure is fun trying to make a foot-warmer out of it Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2004, 12:18:47 PM »

Laughing Unless we are really talking about cloaking(a Romulin or Klingon ship) then never mind Twisted Evil
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2004, 02:59:45 PM »

I thought because of this new HT technology that it maybe possible to screw part og the cpu up but I don't know but thanks for all the help!!!
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2005, 01:53:38 AM »

If you really want to overclock, get a P4 Prescott 775 socket 3.0 GHz 800 FSB with 1 meg cache.....put an aftermarket heatsink on it.  ( I like the Cooler Master Hyper 48)....put in some ddr2-800 corsair memory into it.....with a asus motherboard that supports fsb 800/1066, ddr2, hyperthreading.........and just stand back while the AMD's bite the dust!!!  I have seen this IC overclocked many times without any problems....all the way up to a stable 3.9GHz at 52 degrees C under full load!!  Just surf the net and take a look for yourself, this Prescott that is in the 775 package is a monster....yea it gets hot...sometimes damn hot....but if you have good case cooling and a good aftermarket heatsink you should have no problems overclocking to 3.4-3.6

THE MAIN THING TO REMEMBER IS THIS.  60-65 C IS AS HOT AS YOU SHOULD RUN THIS CHIP IF YOU WANT IT TO LAST.  IF YOU USE A GOOD QUALITY CASE THAT HAS ENOUGH FANS TO  EXHAUST THE HEAT GATHERED FROM YOUR CPU COOLER, MEMORY, AND VIDEO CARD,  YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP THE CPU AT 40-45 C WHILE UNDER LOAD ......BASICALLY I CAN OVERCLOCK UNTIL I REACH 52 DEGREES C. (I AM A BIT CONSERVATIVE SO I PREFER TO KEEP MY MAX TEMP 52 DEGREES C. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 02:04:25 AM »

I will be building a system this week using:

ASUS P5AD2-E DELUXE MOTHERBOARD

INTEL 530 PRESCOTT 3.0GHz 1 MEG CACHE 800FSB

CORSAIR TWIN 2X1024A-6400 DDR2-800 (1GIG)

COOLER MASTER HYPER 48 CPU HEATSINK W/FAN

WD 2000JD SERIAL ATA HARD DRIVE 7,200RPM 8 MEG CACHE 200GIG

ASUS DRW-1608PB 16X DVD READ/WRITE DRIVE

ASUS EN6600/TD/256 PCI X16 VIDEO CARD

AND I'LL STICK IT INTO A BLACK ANTEC TX640B MID TOWER ATX CASE  WITH THE MODULAR NEOPOWER 480WATT PSU

THAT OUGHT TO KEEP ME GOING FOR A WHILE!

If anyone is interested I could take a photo essay of the assembly, and let you know what my temps and speeds are......this is not a LAN machine it's to support the design work, programing and video capture stuff I do.......too bad I had a tight budget, or I would have really put something together!!

Buzz
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2005, 02:54:04 AM »

HT technology doesn’t create a dual core or anything close to that (hardware).
http://www.intel.com/technology/hyperthread/
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2005, 10:40:41 AM »

What do you mean? I am not sure I understood your last statement  Embarassed

The 775 Prescott supports hyperthreading technology, so does the 925EX chipset on the Asus motherboard.....true enough its an Intel thing, AMD doesn't have anything that can compete....not running the speeds you can get with a 775 package...but dual core processors and memory are available if you have the bucks to spend......could you clarify your last statement for me??

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http://www.intel.com/products/ht/hyperthreading_more.htm
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2005, 12:36:38 PM »

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By allowing the processor to use on-die resources that would otherwise have been idle,

From the link peepnklown posted. HT is not a dual core.

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AMD doesn't have anything that can compete....not running the speeds you can get with a 775 package...but dual core processors and memory are available if you have the bucks to spend......could you clarify your last statement for me??

Do a little more research AMD's new X2 (dual core) destroy anything Intel has on the market ;)
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